Moses: The King of Egypt

Bro Daniel Razon the vice-presiding minister of the Members Church Of God International- a prophesied congregation of the true church, THE CHURCH OF GOD have posted an article in a magazine whom critics misused it for their unscrupulous agenda maligning a faith bec of its subtlety which by their crucial ignorance deemed it erroneous to the point of derision.

Pr 10:13 “In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found: but a rod [is] for the back of him that is void of understanding.

Pr 10:14 Wise [men] lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish [is] near destruction.”

Bro Daniel said
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Quote: MOSES, THE KING OF EGYPT.

They inappropriately debase, by lack of cognition the truthfulness of Bro Eli’s would-be successor as despicable which by their insipid comprehension exhibited themselves as some epical redeemer but are they all, in all manner of appraisal be reliable in one thing whereas wrong in myriad things? Their inter-faith derogation of a would-be leader sucks at nothing but their spiritual risk.

Ac 13:40 “Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

Ac 13:41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.”

WAS MOSES THE KING OF EGYPT INDEED?

That all depends with how he was king. WAS IT POLITICAL, DIVINE OR IN PROXY?

Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Ex 7:2 Thou shalt speak all that I command thee: and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he send the children of Israel out of his land.”

 I have made thee god to Pharaoh

God in the Hebrew text is ELOHIM which is used to god almighty. God almighty is ELOHIM, therefore, when god said, I have made thee god to pharaoh it means MOSES WAS MADE GOD ALMIGHTY TO PHARAOH meaning, a proxy god almighty.


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GOD IN HEBREW TEXT:

ELOHIM

Plural

Gods in the ordinary sense; BUT SPECIFICALLY USED (in the plural thus, especially with the article) OF THE SUPREME BEING.

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Moses is inherently a god in the ordinary sense bec he is a child of god, likewise all children of god as righteous men are also gods.

Ps 82:6 “I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.

Ps 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.”

These children of god, Moses included are all ELOHIM, gods in the ordinary sense. God almighty is likewise ELOHIM-THE SUPREME BEING bec it is descriptive of him, so when he said to Moses “I made you god (OR ELOHIM)” he didn’t mean I made you an ordinary god bec Moses is already an ordinary god, implyingly, moses was made god almighty-the supreme being to pharaoh, and to be god almighty it is indispensable to be king also bec god is king eternal.

1Ti 1:17 “Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, [be] honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.”

Moses became a king to pharaoh bec he was made god almighty to pharaoh. How is god almighty a divine king?

He can do as he pleases.

Ps 135:5 “For I know that the LORD [is] great, and [that] our Lord [is] above all gods.

Ps 135:6 Whatsoever the LORD pleased, [that] did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.”

Isa 55:11 “So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I pleases, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.”

Only god disannuls his words.

Isa 14:27 “For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul [it]? and his hand [is] stretched out, and who shall turn it back?”

Everyone is under his rule.

Ps 47:2 “For the LORD most high [is] terrible; [he is] a great King over all the earth.”

Dn 4:17 “to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men…”

that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men

reign [rayn] noun (plural reigns) 1. period of rule: the period of time during which somebody, especially a king or queen, rules a nation 2. control or influence: the fact of being the dominant or controlling power or factor in something, or the period of time during which this dominance persists Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Bec Moses was made ELOHIM OR THE SUPREME BEING to pharaoh he inevitably acquired that privilege of god’s kingship, of rule, of control or influence. Egypt became under him by way of god’s judgment and directives. HE BECAME A CO-RULER.

How did god rule Egypt prior to exodus?

Jer 32:20 “Which hast set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, [even] unto this day, and in Israel, and among [other] men; and hast made thee a name, as at this day;

Jer 32:21 And hast brought forth thy people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs, and with wonders, and with a strong hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with great terror;”

That rule was thru moses in behalf of god.

Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.”
Ex 4:16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, [even] he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.”

I have made thee god to Pharaoh (meaning it includes Egypt)

(to aaron) and thou shalt be to him instead of God (even to his brother he took the place of god)

moses co-ruled by god’s power bec he was god (or king) to pharaoh.

Ps 66:7 “He ruleth by his power for ever; his eyes behold the nations:”

Ps 105:26 “He sent Moses his servant; [and] Aaron whom he had chosen.

Ps 105:27 They shewed his signs among them, and wonders in the land of Ham.

Ps 105:28 He sent darkness, and made it dark; and they rebelled not against his word.

Ps 105:29 He turned their waters into blood, and slew their fish.

Ps 105:30 Their land brought forth frogs in abundance, in the chambers of their kings.

Ps 105:31 He spake, and there came divers sorts of flies, [and] lice in all their coasts.

Ps 105:32 He gave them hail for rain, [and] flaming fire in their land.

Ps 105:33 He smote their vines also and their fig trees; and brake the trees of their coasts.

Ps 105:34 He spake, and the locusts came, and caterpillers, and that without number,

Ps 105:35 And did eat up all the herbs in their land, and devoured the fruit of their ground.

Ps 105:36 He smote also all the firstborn in their land, the chief of all their strength.

Ps 105:37 He brought them forth also with silver and gold: and [there was] not one feeble [person] among their tribes.

Ps 105:38 Egypt was glad when they departed: for the fear of them fell upon them.”

I have made thee god (ELOHIM: THE SUPREME BEING OR GOD ALMIGHTY) to Pharaoh

Moses is not the supreme being (or god almighty) he was only made a supreme being, meaning, a proxy supreme being bec it cannot be that there are two supreme being.

Isa 46:9 “Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me,”

for I [am] God and [there is] none else.

For I am ELOHIM OR THE SUPREME BEING and there is none else. It means there are no supreme being other than god, moses was made ELOHIM the supreme being, logically, moses was made only a proxy supreme being to Egypt.

for I [am] God and [there is] none else.

It is not possible that another ELOHIM or supreme being be made or formed, but it is also god who admitted that he made moses god or ELOHIM as he said: “I made thee ELOHIM to pharaoh”.

Isa 43:10 “Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God (ELOHIM) formed, neither shall there be after me.”

What does that mean?

That there can’t be another supreme being made before and after him. Moses was made the supreme being to pharaoh, implying, that god gave him the privilege to represents him only, a substitute supreme being and not that he is the supreme being. And fact is, moses indeed was there in place of god.

Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Ex 3:10 “Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt.”

Moses acts in behalf of god even to his spokesperson, Aaron.

Ex 4:14 “And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, [Is] not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart.

Ex 4:16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, [even] he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.”

and thou shalt be to him instead of God

What does that mean?

That moses was just there in place of god, a co-worker and representative. They worked in tandem. It was thru moses that the plagues came to Egypt and thru him did it stop. the inception and ends of every plague must be thru his initiative therefore acting in place of god.

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Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee god to Pharaoh…”

I have made thee god (ELOHIM: THE SUPREME BEING) to Pharaoh

Isa 46:9 “Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me,”

for I [am] God (ELOHIM:THE SUPREME BEING), and [there is] none else

This proves moses duty, a proxy god.

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he took orders from the only supreme being- a sign of inferiority not supremacy.

Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Ex 7:2 Thou shalt speak all that I command thee:”

Meaning that his being god to pharaoh is just a representation.
note: moses was god to pharaoh and that includes Egypt. To be god is also to be king therefore moses was king to Egypt.

If that is the case then you admitted, you can’t read a word for word, moses the king of Egypt, can you?

True. But only by using logic.

Then why is Eli Soriano keep reiterating sola scriptura that you deceived fanatics is taught not to exceed what is written, so where is the word for word MOSES KING OF EGYPT?

1C 4:6 “And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and [to] Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn by us beyond not that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.”

that ye might learn by us beyond not that which is written

so where is now the word for word proof?

Nothing bec it is not written “not to exceed beyond word for word.”

I BELIEVE MOSES WAS KING OF EGYPT BY USING LOGIC, BY DISCERNMENT AND NOT BY WORD FOR WORDBASIS, BEC THE WORD FOR WORD FAITH IS UNBIBLICAL.

Hb 5:14 “But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”

their senses exercised to discern both good and evil

discernment of truth is not always on word for word basis.

1C 2:14 “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.”

because they are spiritually discerned

if any of these mockingbirds can show a single verse that we must read the truth word for word in order to confirm it as truth then I’m done. If any of them can prove that we must read word for word MOSES THE KING OF EGYPT in order for it to be true then, I will admit our doctrines are corrupt.

Mal 1:11 “For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.”

For from the rising of the sun- that is the east right?

unto the going down of the same- that is west right?

But did you read the word for word east and west there? No? of course bec that’s what the bible said as using discernment to know things. Did you get it? so next time scoffers don’t ask us of the word for word: moses the king of Egypt!

Ok you made some lousy point but God to pharaoh is not god to Egypt, moron!

Absolutely, It is!  Bec pharaoh represented the whole Egyptian kingdom.

Ex 8:1 “And the LORD spake unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

Ex 8:2 And if thou refuse to let [them] go, behold, I will smite all thy borders with frogs:”

And if thou refuse to let [them] go, behold, I will smite all thy borders with frogs

Ex 9:13 “And the LORD said unto Moses, Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

Ex 9:14 For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that [there is] none like me in all the earth.

Ex 9:15 For now I will stretch out my hand, that I may smite thee and thy people with pestilence; and thou shalt be cut off from the earth.”

Let my people go, that they may serve me. For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people

Ex 9:17 “As yet exaltest thou thyself against my people, that thou wilt not let them go?

Ex 9:18 Behold, to morrow about this time I will cause it to rain a very grievous hail, such as hath not been in Egypt since the foundation thereof even until now.”

Clearly, these are an indication that pharaoh represented Egypt bec why will one man’s action or refusal be on egypt’s expense if not that he represented the whole Egypt?

Ex 10:7 “And Pharaoh's servants said unto him, How long shall this man be a snare unto us? let the men go, that they may serve the LORD their God: knowest thou not yet that Egypt is destroyed?”

It was proven that whenever Moses warned pharaoh it is always meant for all Egypt whenever pharaoh failed to comply the consequences was always applied on all Egypt, implying that indeed the dominion of moses being god to pharaoh is actually the whole of Egypt, therefore, he was not just god to pharaoh but  GOD to Egypt as well or as worded by Bro Razon THE KING OF EGYPT. I HAVE MADE THEE ELOHIM, THE SUPREME BEING TO PHARAOH.

Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Ex 4:16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, [even] he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.”


I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people

THESE VERSES CLEARLY PROVES THAT MOSES AS GOD TO PHARAOH IS ALSO AS GOD TO THE PEOPLE OF EGYPT BEC HIS MISSION AS GOD TO PHARAOH WAS INCLUSIVE OF THE PEOPLE.

Is not being ELOHIM also, being king? It is bec the supreme being is king over all men even over EGYPT therefore moses as being made the supreme being acquired that privilege, as king not to any other else but over pharaoh and Egypt.

 Ps 47:2 “For the LORD most high [is] terrible; [he is] a great King over all the earth.”
Dn 4:17 “to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men,”

 He represented god. HE WAS PROXY AND CO-RULER.

Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Folks! They call that logic.

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They will of course persist, but is a proxy king a king indeed?

Of course.

But a proxy supreme being is not the supreme being?

If you are a proxy king then you are king bec you performs the office of the king but if you are a proxy god almighty then are you god almighty? No! Bec kingship is an office, it can be done by moses as god gave him exclusive privilege “I will make thee god to pharaoh” while to be a supreme being is not an office but a being, that is, god almighty himself. Can moses be the being of god? Moses was not the divine king, bec he is not god instead he was privileged to act in behalf of god’s kingship-therefore a co-ruler, a king.

Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Ex 4:16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, [even] he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.”

and thou shalt be to him instead of God
this proves that moses was indeed there to act as god, he took god's place for his spokesperson, meaning, his being in behalf of god is to the people of egypt, bec they were there to speak to egypt.

If moses was king then why can’t he perform his own act?

Bec god never said, I will make thee god to pharaoh apart from me.

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Moses have that privilege when to commence a plague.

Ex 10:21 “And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness [which] may be felt.

Ex 10:22 And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:”

Or abate a plague.

Ex 9:29 “And Moses said unto him, As soon as I am gone out of the city, I will spread abroad my hands unto the LORD; [and] the thunder shall cease, neither shall there be any more hail; that thou mayest know how that the earth [is] the LORD'S.”

God complied to moses.

Ex 8:29 And Moses said, Behold, I go out from thee, and I will intreat the LORD that the swarms [of flies] may depart from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people, to morrow: but let not Pharaoh deal deceitfully any more in not letting the people go to sacrifice to the LORD.

Ex 8:31 And the LORD did according to the word of Moses; and he removed the swarms [of flies] from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people; there remained not one.”

These clearly indicate the working tandem of god and moses, the president using his proxy president in his stead reigning supreme over the land of Egypt. They co-worked as they co-ruled over it. Is that not being king of Egypt having all control over Egypt thru god’s power?

Not king in the political sense but king as co-rule with god.

Ps 66:7 “He ruleth by his power for ever; his eyes behold the nations:”

Ex 7:1 “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee god to Pharaoh…”

Ex 8:1 “And the LORD spake unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

Ex 8:2 And if thou refuse to let [them] go, behold, I will smite all thy borders with frogs:”

See, I have made thee god to Pharaoh, is in essence, I have made thee god to Egypt.

Is it not so skeptical smarts?

CONCLUSION: MOSES WAS THE KING OF EGYPT.

That’s it folks! Pardon me for my biblical limitations. This is just a personal assessment and not an official church’s release. Thank you!

To those scoffers vilifying before hearing an explanation, this is for you:

Pr 18:12 “Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, and before honour [is] humility.

Pr 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth [it], it [is] folly and shame unto him.

Pr 18:14 The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded spirit who can bear?”

He that answereth a matter before he heareth [it], it [is] folly and shame unto him

To god be the glory!

Truly yours

DENNIS Y BUTIC http://www.facebook.com/sin.yogi

The Resurrection hoax of Osama Abdallah

This is in response to Mr Osama Abdallah’s wrong analysis.

An excerpt from his ignorance:

He said,

  Ample Prophesies in the Old Testament about the Messiah getting saved from crucifixion:

You would expect that major events such as the crucifixion and the resurrection of Christ, that make up the entire case for Christianity, to be at least prophesied in the Bible's Old Testament clearly, without any ambiguity, and without any deliberate mistranslations and lies.  But the Truth and the sad reality for the believers in the crucifixion, who are too also desperate to prove trinity even though the word itself, "trinity", doesn't even exist in the entire Bible, is that these major events, the crucifixion and the resurrection, were never mentioned in the entire Old Testament.

The following Biblical verses that further refute the crucifixion and resurrection lies:

Being lifted and saved:

Luke 4:10-12
10 For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect and guard you.
11 And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”
12 Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’”

Matthew 4:5-10
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city, Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple,
6 and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off! For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect you. And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”
7 Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’”
8 Next the devil took him to the peak of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
9 “I will give it all to you,” he said, “if you will kneel down and worship me.”
10 “Get out of here, Satan,” Jesus told him. “For the Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the Lord your God and serve only him.’”

There are few points to notice in these verses:

1-  Notice how satan referred to Psalm 91 regarding the protection of Jesus.

2-  Notice how Jesus confirmed that Psalm 91 was indeed speaking about him by saying "the Scriptures also say..." (Luke 4:12 and Matthew 4:7).

3-  As we will see in the sections below, Psalm 91 is not just concerned with preventing Christ or the Messiah from striking his feet against the ground.  This is the least point the chapter is concerned with.  The chapter concentrated heavily on:

  

Psalm 91 is not just limited to the foot striking the rock!

The following table contains all of Psalm 91 and detailed analysis about its key verses.  Notice how the New Testament in Luke 4:10-11 and Matthew 4:5-6 and in many other places completely misquoted and misunderstood Psalm 91.  Psalm 91 and its verses are not just concerned about Jesus' striking of his feet against a rock (Psalm 91:12).  That is a lie and a clear fabrication! [1] [2]  This piece is very minor in the chapter, because the chapter is more focused on:

  GOD Almighty will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will save him (Psalm 91:3).
 

  GOD Almighty will cover him with His Protection (Psalm 91:4).
 

  Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).
 

  Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).
 

  No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).
 

  GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13).  Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.
 

  Christ's call will be HEARD, and he will be delivered and honored (Psalm 91:15, Isaiah 52:13).  No way would these verses be valid if Christ got crucified.
 

  His life will be prolonged (extended) and he will live to even see his offspring (Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16, which by the way contradict Jesus never got married and had children.  In Islam's Noble Quran's 13:38, however, it is quite possible that Jesus Christ had wives and children).
 

  His life will overpower death (Isaiah 53:12).
 

  "Death" in Isaiah 53:9 is proven to be symbolic using the Hebrew Lexicon and several English translations, and it never meant a literal death.
 

  Important Note:  Psalm 91 is speaking as a number of Prophecies that WILL take place.  Notice how the verses are speak of future events that WILL TAKE PLACE.  Never once throughout the entire New Testament were the Angels sent to save Jesus from striking his foot against a rock.  This, again, clearly proves that the NT is indeed false and corrupt.
 

(According to the Noble Quran and the original writings of the Disciples of Jesus, Jesus was not crucified, and he watched the crucifixion of the doomed person. Also, according to the Apocalypse of Peter that was discovered in Egypt, Jesus sat on the tree and watched the crucified one getting crucified.  Peter witnessed this and wrote the Apocalypse.  Not only that, but while Christians insist that the book is a Gnostic one, but according to Wikipedia.org, "It is unclear whether this text advocates an adoptionist (Jesus was Divine) or docetist (Jesus' body and crucifixion were an illusion) christology".  So there is no proof that the book is Gnostic.)

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Bible perverting muslims insist a rabid deception how that according to them, biblical accounts of christ’s crucifixion and resurrection is nothing but a good bedtime tale spreading it like doomsday fire scorching grit and hollow. They said that the absence of old testament’s prophecies about it negates its truthfulness therefore qualifies as a damn good old hoax. They twist bible verses to destroy it as if such wild-grasped cognition is not limited to the level of crap.

Is it indeed true that christ’s crucifixion and resurrection have not been prophesied at all?

Isa 46:9 “Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me,

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:”

Christ’s crucifixion prophesied:

Zch 12:10 “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.”

Isa 53:3 “He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Isa 53:4 . Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isa 53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

Isa 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.

Isa 53:10 . Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.”

His death prophesied:

Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

Isa 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.

Zch 12:10 “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.

Zch 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

Zch 12:12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

Zch 12:13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;

Zch 12:14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

Zch 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.”

In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness

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Fountain in hebrew text:

Maqor

Source of water naturally flowing

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A mourning in jerusalem for someone they pierced when also in that day a fountain for sins and uncleanness is likewise opened, fountain for sins meaning water for sins, implying not a literal water bec literal water can’t cleanse us of sins. That is a spiritual water, the living water.

Jn 4:10 “Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

Jn 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.”

That living water is the spirit that gives everlasting life. What is that?

Jn 6:63 “It is the spirit that quickeneth (to give life); the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.”

Jn 6:68 “Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.”

The words of Christ is that living water, a fountain of living water that flows within believers after receiving the holy ghost, and that is after christ’s death.

Jn 7:38 “He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Jn 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)”

The living water will only be given after Christ will be glorified or when the holy ghost is given. When is that?

Jn 16:5 “But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?

Jn 16:6 But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.

Jn 16:7 . Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Jn 15:26 . But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:”

The fountain of living water by the holy ghost that is meant for sins and uncleanness will be opened when Christ go away to the father implying death corroborating that prophecy of mourning in jerusalem and the opening of the fountain for sins.

How can that fountain or the words of Christ be for sins?

Eph 5:26 “That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word

Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.”

It cleanses us from sins.

Zch 12:10 “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him,

Zch 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.”

That muslim folks clearly speaks of christ’s death. How about his resurrection?

Ps 16:10 “For thou wilt not leave my soul in the grave; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”

Apostle Peter testified that it is about his resurrection.

Ac 2:14 “But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all [ye] that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

Ac 2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

Ac 2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

Ac 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in the grave, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Ac 2:29 Men [and] brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

Ac 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Ac 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in the grave, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Ac 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.”

He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption

This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses

There were many witnesses of christ’s living after death, how about you who are your witnesses that he was never crucified buried and resurrected?

Only your misinterpretation of the scriptures? That is your sole dependence but will that ever stands, let’s see.

This is their foremost basis:

Ps 91:3 “Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, [and] from the noisome pestilence.

Ps 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth [shall be thy] shield and buckler.

Ps 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; [nor] for the arrow [that] flieth by day;

Ps 91:6 [Nor] for the pestilence [that] walketh in darkness; [nor] for the destruction [that] wasteth at noonday.

Ps 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; [but] it shall not come nigh thee.

Ps 91:8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

Ps 91:10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

Ps 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

Ps 91:12 They shall bear thee up in [their] hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Ps 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

Ps 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

Ps 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I [will be] with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

Ps 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.”

God promised deliverance and safety to Christ but is it indicative of a perpetual unending promise? Does it have no termination?

Let Christ answer that.

Mt 16:21 “From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.”

Mk 10:33 “[Saying], Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:

Mk 10:34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.”

Christ confirmed that god’s promise of deliverance and safety ends in his crucifixion and death as testified too by prophecy and many eyewitnesses corroborating each and everyone’s statements, confirming that PSALM 91 is not a forever promise, whereas, you perverting muslims have only an assumption and a misinterpretation of PSALM 91 as your sole auxiliary. Did PSALM 91 guarantee a perpetual unending fulfillment?

·  GOD Almighty will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will save him (Psalm 91:3).

 

·  GOD Almighty will cover him with His Protection (Psalm 91:4).
 

·  Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).
 

 

·  No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).
 

·  GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13).  Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.
 

·  Christ's call will be HEARD, and he will be delivered and honored (Psalm 91:15, Isaiah 52:13).  No way would these verses be valid if Christ got crucified.
 

 

Did it guarantee, I’ll save you forever? Did it say, god shall deliver you forever?

Who corroborated that you interpreted these correctly?

“Also, according to the Apocalypse of Peter that was discovered in Egypt, Jesus sat on the tree and watched the crucified one getting crucified.  Peter witnessed this and wrote the Apocalypse.  Not only that, but while Christians insist that the book is a Gnostic one, but according to Wikipedia.org, "It is unclear whether this text advocates an adoptionist (Jesus was Divine) or docetist (Jesus' body and crucifixion were an illusion) christology". 

So there is no proof that the book is Gnostic.)”

Pr 6:16 “These six [things] doth the LORD hate: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him:

Pr 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Pr 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

Pr 6:19 A false witness [that] speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.”

A false witness [that] speaketh lies

You can’t authenticate that that is indeed peter’s epistle bec it is not. Why? It is not included in the inspired book gathered by god himself.

Isa 34:16 “Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, AND HIS SPIRIT IT HATH GATHERED THEM.”

There are always counter-evidences, it is either true or a concoction, the question is, how shall you verify it when in fact, Christ himself testified his crucifixion and death and resurrection?

THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CORRUPTED!

Then let’s use what you believe is not- THE OLD TESTAMENT.

Is there a prophecy that the bible will never be corrupted at all?

There is!

Ps 12:6 “The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Ps 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.”

God will preserve his words forever. Does that sounds like it can be corrupted? Indeed many prophecies of its incorruptibility was promised such as these:

Isa 40:8 “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.”

Ps 33:9 “For he spake, and it was [done]; he commanded, and it stood fast.

Ps 33:10 The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices of the people of none effect.

Ps 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.”

Ps 119:159 “Consider how I love thy precepts: quicken me, O LORD, according to thy lovingkindness.

Ps 119:160 . Thy word [is] true [from] the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments [endureth] for ever.”

You might say, oh! Forever doesn’t guarantee eternity bec sometimes forever ends!

Jon 2:6 “I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars [was] about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

Jon 2:10 . And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry [land].”

the earth with her bars [was] about me for ever

and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry [land]

But how about this, does this mean it has an end likewise?

Ps 119:142 “Thy righteousness [is] an everlasting righteousness, and thy law [is] the truth.

Ps 119:144 The righteousness of thy testimonies [is] everlasting: give me understanding, and I shall live.”

The righteousness of thy testimonies [is] everlasting

Righteousness in hebrew text is:

Tsedeq

The right (natural, moral or legal)

The righteousness of thy testimonies or the morality or correctness of thy testimony is EVERLASTING implying NO CORRUPTION OF GOD’S WORDS bec as corroborated by the aforementioned verses god will preserve his words forever. FOREVER NOW IN THIS INSTANCE IS EVERLASTING.

Ps 12:6 “The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Ps 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.”

thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever

CONCLUSION: THE BIBLE IS INCORRUPTIBLE.

Moreover, he said:

Note:  The Psalms of David, while they are narrated by him, but they do contain many prophecies about the coming of Jesus Christ or the Messiah.  The New Testament had made many references to many of the Psalms verses and linked them to Jesus Christ.

It is also interesting to know that King David was never killed by his enemies.  Therefore, the speech in Psalm 9:13 and Psalm 30:1 refer to a live man and not a man who died.  Notice how David said:

1-  "I will exalt you, O LORD, for you lifted me out of the depths and did not let my enemies gloat over me."

2-  "Have mercy and lift me up from the gates of death".

The two quotes indicate that David cried out to GOD Almighty for help, and GOD Almighty lifted him from the enemies' defeat and death.  In other words, David was victorious and was never killed or put to death by them.  Remember that King David was never killed by his enemies.  He was lifted up by GOD Almighty and was made victorious over them.

Therefore, it is also safe to say that GOD Almighty's Commands about "saving" and " sending down the Angels to lift up" Christ from his enemies, in Psalm 91 and the rest of the Psalm verses above, also undoubtebly prove that Jesus Christ indeed never got crucified and was indeed saved from crucifixion and death.

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Is that so, now that Christ said he will be crucified and resurrected? Is that so, now that the bible proves its incorruptibility. You keep using the PSALMS of david, now believe it this time. If the PSALMS say god’s words are incorruptible bec its righteousness or correctness is everlasting, then that stands. it is undeniable therefore that when Christ said he would be crucified and resurrected then that is an irrevocable truth coming from an incorruptible book. You only miscomprehended PSALM 91 making it as though it is a never ending promise of deliverance.

Just that thinking folks! I hope you comprehend it with an open mind.

Lastly, for osama and all perverts:

Pr 8:8 “All the words of my mouth [are] in righteousness; [there is] nothing froward or perverse in them.

Pr 8:9 They [are] all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.”

2Pt 3:16 “in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”

Truly yours, 

DENNIS Y BUTIC http://www.facebook.com/sin.yogi