Blessed is he who appreciates knowledge.
Pr 24:14 “So [shall] the knowledge of
wisdom [be] unto thy soul: when thou hast found [it], then there shall be a
reward, and thy expectation shall not be cut off.”
Pr 13:16 “Every prudent [man] dealeth with knowledge: but a fool layeth open [his] folly.”
I hope catholic readers don’t calcify their hearts
from established truth just so to justify their blind catholic faith.
2Th 2:10 “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them
that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might
be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe
a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth,
but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
Appealing words may
be effective to some but I hope you look beyond mere rhetoric that masquerades
lies, weakness and deception which lacks in knowledge and wisdom. Learn to be
biblical.
ANATOMY OF THE LITANY:
The litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary, a prayer to
mary for intercession is entirely unbiblical. Tower of david and other marian
titles they say are metaphors for mary giving biblical additions and personal
auxiliary exegesis to such a lengthy, and repetitious prayer. It is the same as
repeating “mary pray for us” over and over again.
Ec 5:2 “Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be
hasty to utter [any] thing before God: for God [is] in heaven, and thou upon
earth: therefore let thy
words be few.”
Mt 6:7 “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen
[do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.”
This is their very
“PERSONAL” (not from god) exegesis:
SIN: Tower of David, pray for us.
Tower of ivory, pray for us.
House of gold, pray for us.
Ark of the covenant, pray for us.
Gate of heaven, pray for us.
Tower of ivory, pray for us.
House of gold, pray for us.
Ark of the covenant, pray for us.
Gate of heaven, pray for us.
Tower
of David, pray for us… WHAAAT???
Tower
can pray, ark of the covenant can pray? Gate of heaven too?
GINO: WAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL LOL LOL!
It is official, Mr. Sin is not only shallow, but
also incredibly stupid. HAHAHA... Oh, my stomach!
Mr. Sin, do you know that the Litany of the Blessed Virgin
Mary is actually the list of the Various Titles of Mary?
I will explain:
1. Tower of David: She (?) is of the
lineage of David through Joseph (Matthew 1: 1-16). She happens to be the tower
of it because she leads us to who is on top of the tower – JESUS CHRIST, her
son.
2. Tower of Ivory: Ivory is pure. As
she is the tower of the lineage of David, she is also that tower of purity
- "The virgin will be with child and will give
birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"--which means, "God
with us." Matthew 1:23
3. House of Gold: She contains the BREAD
OF LIFE (Jn. 6:35). And the term ‘House of Gold’ can be taken from the idea in
1 Kings 6:22:
“So he overlaid the whole interior with gold. He also
overlaid with gold the altar that belonged to the inner sanctuary.”
What is in the inner sanctuary? THE ARK OF THE COVENANT -
THE HOLY OF ALL THE HOLIEST. Who was inside Mary? The Word (John 1:1), The High
Priest (Heb. 6:20), and the King of Kings (Rev. 19:16)
4. Ark of the Covenant: Mary IS THE ARK OF
THE NEW COVENANT. Come on, Mr. Sin.
Mary,
in whom the Lord himself has just made his dwelling, is the daughter of Zion in
person, the Ark of the Covenant, the place where the glory of God dwells. She
is 'the dwelling of God [...] with men.'" CCC#2676
God the Holy Spirit overshadowed and then indwelled the
Ark. The Ark became the dwelling place of the presence of God [Exodus
40:34-35]
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God the Holy Spirit overshadowed and the indwelled
Mary. At that time Mary's womb became the dwelling place of the
presence of God [Luke 1:35].
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The Ark contained the 10 Commandments [the words of God
in stone], a pot of manna, and Aaron's rod that came back to life
[Deuteronomy 10:3-5; Hebrews 9:4].
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The womb of the Virgin contained Jesus: the living Word
of God enfleshed, the living bread from heaven, "the Branch"
(Messianic title) who would die but come back to life [Luke 1:35].
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God made Aaron's rod (which would be kept in the Ark)
return to life and budded to prove he was the legitimate High Priest [Numbers
17:8].
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God would resurrect His Son, who had become enfleshed in
Mary's womb and born to bring salvation to all mankind, to prove He is the
eternal High Priest [Hebrews 4:14].
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In Revelation 11:19 John sees the Ark of the Covenant in
heaven [this is the last verse of chapter 11]
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In Revelation 12:1 John sees Mary in heaven. It is
the same vision Juan Diego saw of Mary in 1531'the Woman clothed with the sun
and standing on the moon.
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Lastly,
5. The Gate of Heaven: She is the
symbolized as the Gate of Heaven because she leads all people to be Holy and
live the life of Holiness. As she said in the wedding feast in Cana: “Do
whatever he tells you to.” (Jn 2:5) By doing the Will of Christ, we can be with
Christ. And such is what Mary does. She points you to the direction of her Son.
So Dear Brothers and Sisters, we have proven once and for
all that Mr. Sin is very incapable of telling when it comes what the Catholic
Church really does believe and hold. I mean, ask a fragmented church member to
tell you what the Church really teaches. You’ll get more than logical
inconsistencies.
Mr.
Sin, not only have you produced the GREATEST EPIC FAIL ARGUMENT of your life
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SIN: Let’s consult biblical truth if indeed they
are speaking the truth or just whining crap.
1. TOWER
OF DAVID. Mary he says is the tower that leads to the top where Jesus is.
AN OPINION! He is speaking out of
himself and not words from god. Is that god’s explanation or yours only?
Jn 7:17 “If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I
speak of myself.
Jn 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he
that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness
is in him.”
I decry, it is their own invention!
Ec 7:29 “Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man
upright; but they have sought out many inventions.”
Who are the biblical towers?
God is a tower.
Ps 61:2 “From the end of the earth will I cry unto thee, when my
heart is overwhelmed: lead me to the rock [that] is higher than I.
Ps 61:3 For thou hast been a shelter for me, [and] a strong tower
from the enemy.
Ps 61:4 I will abide in thy tabernacle for ever: I will trust in
the covert of thy wings. Selah.”
Ps 144:1 “Blessed [be] the LORD my strength, which teacheth my
hands to war, [and] my fingers to fight:
Ps 144:2 My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my
deliverer; my shield, and [he] in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under
me.”
Jesus is a tower.
Jer 6:26 “O daughter of my people, gird [thee] with sackcloth, and
wallow thyself in ashes: make thee mourning, [as for] an only son, most bitter
lamentation: for the spoiler shall suddenly come upon us.
Jer 6:27 I have set thee [for] a tower [and] a fortress among my
people, that thou mayest know and try their way.”
Mic 4:3 “And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong
nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their
spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation,
neither shall they learn war any more.
Mic 4:8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the
daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom
shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.”
The tower is:
For thou hast been a shelter for me, [and] a strong tower from the
enemy
and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield
O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion
What is a tower folks? A stronghold or a
shelter. What makes mary a TOWER? Does god allow it or you made it up?
(flap flap flap! Browsing the bible)
Oh my! Where is Mary being the tower of David ever
written, Mr. Inventor?
Pr 30:5 “Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them
that put their trust in him.
Pr 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and
thou be found
a liar.”
This is the tower of
david, a literal building for armoury, is this mary?
Ss 4:4 “Thy neck [is] like the tower of David
builded for an armoury, whereon there hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of
mighty men.”
You said, mary as a
tower will bring us to Christ but the tower of david is not to lead us to
Christ but only a storage for the armoury. There is never a mention that the
tower of david can also be spiritual in nature to mean mary, is there?
God is strict
whatever is not biblical we must not incorporate in our faith.
Pr 30:5 “Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them
that put their trust in him.
Pr 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and
thou be found
a liar.”
Learn to humble
yourself to this and I guarantee you you’ll learn the habit of sola scriptura.
2. TOWER
OF IVORY. He says, Ivory is pure. As she is the tower of the lineage of David, she
is also that tower of purity.
Tower
again? Ivory is pure? But what thing is not pure of itself? Everything is pure
of itself.
Ro
14:14 “I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that [there is] nothing unclean (koinon
in greek: common/corrupt) of
itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him [it is]
unclean.”
Why not tower of silver? And why tower, why is she a tower? Invent
an explanation again?
3. HOUSE
OF GOLD. He said house of gold contains the bread. Mary carried the bread of
life.
Note:
only Levite priests are privileged to eat that bread.
Mt 12:3 “But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungered, and they that were with him;
Mt 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the
shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were
with him, but only for the priests?”
Jesus is the bread of
life not only to priests but for all who accepts it whereas, the bread in the
temple is for levite priests only. The bread of life is spiritual but the bread
of the temple is physical. The bread of life came from heaven whereas, the
bread of the temple was from the bakery. What is the connection of these to make it
comparable?
Jn 6:48 “I am that bread
of life.
Jn 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are
dead.
Jn 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a
man may eat thereof, and not die.”
The bible speaks only
of priests offering gifts and sacrifices as an example and shadow of heavenly
things but never including the “house of gold” as a shadow of heavenly things
to mean mary.
Hb 8:4 “For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing
that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Hb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was
about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things
according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.”
By what biblical
principle, gave you right to make your own comparison, then assumed an
interpretation anyway?
Pr 30:5 “Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them
that put their trust in him.
Pr 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and
thou be found
a liar.”
Mary is a house?
1Ti 3:15 “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou
oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God,
which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.”
A house is a church.
Col 1:18 “And he is the head of the body, the
church.”
A church is a body.
1C 12:12 “For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body,
being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.
1C 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.”
A body is not made of one member only but many. Mary as a house,
Is it made of many Mary? YOU ARE INVENTING NON-BIBLICAL TERMS.
4. ARK
OF THE COVENANT. He says, Mary IS THE
ARK OF THE NEW COVENANT. Come on, Mr. Sin.
“Mary, in whom the
Lord himself has just made his dwelling, is the daughter of Zion in person, the
Ark of the Covenant, the place where the glory of God dwells. She is 'the
dwelling of God [...] with men.'"
“She is 'the dwelling of God [...]
with men”
But all Christians are
the dwelling of god too, are they all arcs of the covenant now?
Eph 2:19 “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and
prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth
unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”
Arc of the new covenant? Do you know what is the new
covenant? Is jesus Christ the new covenant?
Hb 8:8 “For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days
come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah:
Hb 8:10 For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house
of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,
and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be
to me a people:”
WHAT IS THE NEW COVENANT?
I will put my laws
into their hearts and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a
people.
The arc of the
covenant contained 10 commandments then by comparison, equates it to mary being
the indwelling vessel then of Christ-the word of god BUT IS THE WORD OF GOD THE
NEW COVENANT OR JUST THE COVENANT LAWS?
AGAIN, THE NEW
COVENANT: I will put my (covenant) laws into their hearts and I will be to
them a God, and they shall be to me a people.
Where can you read
the ark of the new covenant anyway? You invent it again, Benjamin franklin?
Hb 9:15 “And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions
[that were] under the first testament, they which are called might receive
the promise of eternal inheritance.”
Jesus was the
mediator of the new covenant, he is not the new covenant. The new covenant is
between god and Christians, Jesus only mediates for it, how did it indwells in
mary’s womb? THE ARK OF THE COVENANT IS A CONTAINER OF THE OLD COVENANT-THE 10
COMMANDMENTS WRITTEN IN STONES in comparison, how did mary contained the new
covenant, or the new agreement when Mary only contained the would-be mediator
of the new agreement?
“Mary, in whom the Lord himself has just made
his dwelling, is the daughter of Zion in person, the Ark of the Covenant, the
place where the glory of God dwells.”
You’re having now the mentality
of Nostradamus, all guess work.
The glory of god in comparison has been likened to
the new covenant. Is the new covenant the glory of god? Maybe they say, no! it only
carries the glory of god!
Hb 8:10 For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house
of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,
and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be
to me a people:”
2C 4:6 “For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness,
hath shined in our hearts, to [give] the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
What is the covenant? It is to give the light of the
knowledge of the glory of god. It only supply us information of the glory of
god and not that it is the glory of god itself. Is this what it means by the
new covenant as having the glory of god? But how did the new covenant fits
inside mary’s womb then?
Again! we must not add inventions to the bible, let
us be sola scriptura.
Pr 30:5 “Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them
that put their trust in him.
Pr 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and
thou be found
a liar.”
A christian man is also the glory of god.
1C 11:7 “For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch
as he is the image and glory of
God: but the woman is the
glory of the man.”
Do you mean, his mother is also the arc of the
covenant bec the glory of god was once in his womb?
Moreover,
Catholics alibis:
In Revelation 11:19 John sees the Ark of the Covenant in
heaven [this is the last verse of chapter 11]
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In Revelation 12:1 John sees Mary in heaven. It is
the same vision Juan Diego saw of Mary in 1531'the Woman clothed with the sun
and standing on the moon.
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Let’s quote the allegedly is Mary.
Re 12:1 “And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman
clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of
twelve stars:”
Really, that is Mary?
Re 12:2 “And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and
pained to be delivered.
Re 12:5 AND SHE BROUGHT FORTH A MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations
with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.”
That woman gave birth to a man-child. That man-child
is not Jesus Christ but the church. THE WOMAN IS THE MOTHER OF THE CHURCH, THE
MOTHER OF CHRISTIANITY. THE MOTHER OF CHRISTIANITY IS: THE NEW COVENANT AND NEW
JERUSALEM. That woman in revelation clothed with the sun and under her is the
moon, is the new covenant giving birth to the church.
The man child is called the children of zion. And
zion is Jerusalem.
The prophecy of isaiah:
Isa 66:7 “Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain
came, SHE WAS DELIVERED OF A MAN CHILD.
Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things?
Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? [or] shall a nation be born
at once? FOR AS SOON AS ZION TRAVAILED SHE BROUGHT FORTH HER CHILDREN.
The man child is not
a single entity but many, the children of zion. The children of zion are not
the jews bec
the fulfillment of the vision was hereafter from the already established jewish
nation.
Re 4:1 “After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in
heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking
with me; which said, Come up hither, AND I WILL SHEW THEE THINGS WHICH MUST BE
HEREAFTER.”
These are the Christians. The
woman is new zion giving birth to them.
New zion:
Jer 31:12 “Therefore they shall come and sing IN THE HEIGHT OF
ZION, and shall flow together to the goodness of the LORD, for wheat, and for
wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their
soul shall be as a watered garden; AND THEY SHALL NOT SORROW ANY MORE AT ALL.”
AND THEY SHALL NOT SORROW ANY MORE AT ALL
The woman of
revelation:
Ga 4:22 “For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by
a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Ga 4:23 But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the
flesh; but he of the freewoman [was] by promise.
Ga 4:24 Which things are an allegory: FOR THESE ARE THE TWO
COVENANTS; the one from the mount Sinai (THE 10 COMMANDMENT OR THE
OLD COVENANT), which gendereth to
bondage, which is Agar.
Ga 4:26 BUT JERUSALEM WHICH IS ABOVE IS FREE WHICH IS THE MOTHER
OF US ALL.
Ga 4:31 So then, brethren, we (the Christians) are not children of the bondwoman, but of
the free.”
YOU MIGHT ASK, WAS
NEW JERUSALEM ON EARTH GIVING BIRTH TO THE CHURCH?
The vision of the
woman was initially in heaven but afterwards she is seen on earth giving birth.
The woman as new Jerusalem is on earth as the new covenant. New Jerusalem and
the new covenant are embodied as one-the free woman as its allegory, the mother
of Christians.
So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of
the free
Who then is the
mother of these Christians?
“But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but
he of the freewoman [was] by promise. Which things are an allegory: FOR THESE
ARE THE TWO COVENANTS.”
The free woman, the
mother of Christians, is the new covenant as she is an allegory apart from the
one that came from mt sinai-the first covenant. She is also the Jerusalem
above.
“BUT JERUSALEM (new zion) WHICH IS ABOVE IS FREE WHICH IS THE MOTHER
OF US ALL”
Comparison: Isaiah
66:7-8 “new zion give birth to the man
child”, GAL 4:26 “new zion is the
mother of Christians” implying that the man child are the Christians-the
church.
That is what the
vision in revelation is all about folks, don’t make inventions.
Re 4:1 “After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in
heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking
with me; which said, Come up hither, AND I WILL SHEW THEE THINGS WHICH MUST BE
HEREAFTER.”
AND I WILL SHEW THEE THINGS WHICH MUST BE HEREAFTER
We are that man-child
1934-to rapture. The man-child born is the church in latter days bec this
vision is meant at the latter days. WHICH
MUST BE HEREAFTER.
Re 12:5
“AND SHE BROUGHT FORTH A MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of
iron.”
When do Christians
rule with a rod of iron?
Re 1:6 “AND HATH MADE US KINGS AND PRIESTS UNTO GOD AND HIS
FATHER, to him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”
Re 20:4 “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment
was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the
witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the
beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads,
or in their hands; AND THEY LIVED AND REIGNED WITH CHRIST A THOUSAND YEARS.
Re 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the
thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.”
Christians who overcome
will rule with a rod of iron in the millennial reign of christ.
Re 2:26 “AND HE THAT OVERCOMETH, and keepeth my works unto the
end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Re 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even
as I received of my Father.”
Jesus Christ will rule
also with a rod of iron.
Re 19:15 “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it
he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of
Almighty God.
Re 19:16 And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name
written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”
Jesus and the man
child-the Christians will both rule with a rod of iron, fortifying even more
that the man child is the church, and new zion being their mother is the new
covenant giving birth to more Christians everyday. THAT IS NOT MARY AT ALL.
Your juan diego is either
a a tallbearer or a deceived fanatic-if so that he is not a delusionist.
Let the bible alone explains biblical things folks! Not you! Bec
the bible explains everything it says which your ownselves cannot.
GINO: What
is in the inner sanctuary? THE ARK OF THE COVENANT - THE HOLY OF ALL THE HOLIEST.
SIN: you do not even know how to discern simple
truth. The holiest of all is not the ark of the covenant but the tabernacle-the
inner room.
Hb 9:3 “AND AFTER THE SECOND VEIL, THE TABERNACLE WHICH IS CALLED
THE HOLIEST OF ALL;
Hb 9:4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant
overlaid round about with gold, wherein [was] the golden pot that had manna,
and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;”
4. GATE OF HEAVEN. Mary
is symbolized as the gate of heaven. Who made the symbolism? God or you?
What is the gate of
heaven?
Gn 28:17 And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful [is] this
place! this [is] none other but the house of God, and this [is] the gate of
heaven.”
What is the house of
god?
1Ti 3:15 “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou
oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the
truth.”
THE CHURCH FOOLISH CATHOLICS IS THE GATE OF HEAVEN! NOT MARY!
Mr Gino Pastoriza Paradela,
is this my greatest epic fail argument of my life OR THAT YOU EXEMPLIFIES ALL OF
CATHOLIC IGNORANCE?
ON ANOTHER TOPIC:
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Q. 537. What does anti-pope
mean, and who were the anti-popes?
A. Anti-pope means a
pretended pope. The anti-popes were men who by the aid of faithless Christians
or others unlawfully seized and claimed the papal power while the lawful pope
was in prison or exile.
--baltimore cathecism
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The Didache [4:3] (50 AD) also taught: “You shall not
make a schism. Rather you shall make peace among those who are contending.
Judge justly, take no regard of the person when correcting transgretions.
”
Caught from the
horses’ mouth: “Rather you shall make peace among those who are
contending.”
A proof that you allowed contention to
progress in your church. As a matter of fact, you had a 50-year papal schism
inside the church’s premises.
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During the half-century the schism lasted, a number of solutions were proposed,
including the popes’ resignations, but only the convocation of a council
offered any real hope. Cardinals and bishops from both sides met at Pisa in
1409, but their efforts only resulted in adding a third pope to the other two.
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IS SUCH DISORDER POSSIBLE IN THE TRUE CHURCH? Not
at all bec there is impossibility of schism in the true church.
1C 14:33 “For God is not [the author] of confusion (akatastasia
in greek: DISORDER),
but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”
Ja 3:16 “For where envying and strife [is], there [is] confusion (disorder) and every evil work.”
There can’t be
disorder and every evil works bec it is god who works all things in the church.
Eph 1:11 “In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being
predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:”
1C 12:5 “And there are differences of administrations, but the
same Lord.
1C 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the
same God which worketh all in
all.”
Even our desires and
will, god influenced it.
Phl 2:13 “For it is God which worketh in
you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.”
Bec he is the one who
work all things in the church, by all means he gives peace, meaning there is no
possibility of satanic schism or papal disorder.
2Th 3:16 “Now the Lord of peace himself GIVE YOU PEACE ALWAYS BY
ALL MEANS. The lord be with you all.”
Peace by all means
implies no papal schism right? Schism or factions as the papal factions goes
along with all evil work.
Ja 3:16 “For where envying and strife (eritheia
in greek: faction) [is], there [is] confusion and every evil work.”
Satan has no power
over the church. Evil has no power to touch the church for factions and disorder
and evil works.
1Jn 5:18 “We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but
he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
1Jn 5:19 [And] we know that we (the church) are of God, and the whole world lieth in
wickedness.”
You might say, evil
can’t individually touch the true Christians but there are of course false
Christians in the church Jude 1:4,
like our evil popes and anti popes.
Wrong. “We know that whosoever is born of God
sinneth not and that wicked one toucheth him not And we know that “WE” (the church) are of God”. The verse is speaking
collectively “WE” meaning the church sinneth not and that the evil one can’t toucheth
the whole church.
God promised that!
Indeed no evil or transgression can touch the church bec the gates of hell won’t
prevail over it at all.
Mt 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon
this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall
not prevail against it.”
How come evil as
inquisition, crusades and papal schism prevailed over the catholic church?
Also, false
Christians in the true church are not exposed while your evil popes-inquisitors
and crusaders were exposed.
Ga 2:4 “And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we
have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:”
Jude 1:4 “For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly
men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only
Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Why unawares?
Bec if they are
known, they will be excommunicated which you on the contrary didn’t. did you?
How long have you known they were antipopes and heretics? The day they become
antipopes. Did you excommunicated them? No. you let them reign alongside.
Proof that you
condone them.
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5) Antipope Lawrence was antipope twice: in 488 and again in 501-505.
7) John XIX; because of medieval errors in listing, there is no John XX. It may be that Antipope John (?-844) has confused the list.
8) The regnal dates of Benedict V (964-966) overlap those of his predecessor, Leo VIII (963-965), and of his successor, John XIII (965-972). Benedict is nevertheless considered a legitimate pope.
(antipope benedict V ruled with his heresy 2 years)
9) Benedict IX (1032-1044, 1045, 1047-1048) was legitimately elected three times and deposed twice.
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The church doesn’t tolerate evil.
The church can’t be
tainted with impurities and stains as schism and perversions, and murder and
more murder.
Eph 5:25 “Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the
church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of
water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church,
not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and
without blemish.”
Phl 2:14 “Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
Phl 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God,
without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye
shine as lights in the world;”
Not having spot or
wrinkle OR ANY SUCH THING. Harmless. The true church has no blemish. Is the
catholic church unblemished? Was it harmless?
GINO: the true church never makes schism, THE PEOPLE DO.
SIN: ignorance. The people is the church.
1C 1:2 “To the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are
sanctified in Christ Jesus, called [to be] saints.”
1Pt 5:13 “The [church
that is] at Babylon, elected
together with [you], saluteth you.”
The saints is the
church.
GINO: Obviously, the True Church never makes any schism. THE
PEOPLE DO. And as you read your source, you will realize that the Church
hammered the things out. But the Evil One will always try to destroy the
Church.
SIN:
HAMMERED THINGS OUT? Like tolerating
evil popes.
GINO: There are people who try their best to snare the people.
They are the ‘wolves in sheeps clothing’. They dress as the Pope, but are
actually people trying to lead the people away from the Church.
SIN: but the fact that you tolerated them for 50 years proves you
internally corrupted.
1C 5:11 “But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if
any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater,
or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
1C 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without?
do not ye judge them that are within?
1C 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth.
Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.”
Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person
You didn’t
excommunicated them upon knowing that they are illegitimate popes, deviated
from catholic doctrines. You didn’t excommunicated the wolves in sheep
clothings? IS THAT HAMMERING THINGS OUT?
Ti 3:10 “A man that is an heretic after the first and second
admonition reject;
Ti 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth,
being condemned of himself.”
Proof that antipopes
are catholic heretics, deviated from catholic doctrines.
As proven below,
Benedict XV was the third of the recent series of antipopes to plague the
world, and his heresies laid the
foundation for all the antipopes that followed him and the apostate Second
Vatican Council. Specifically notorious were his heresies and
schisms on the redemption of all men, on peace and the brotherhood of all men,
on communing with heretics, on denial of the unity of the Church, on the Holy
Ghost as the author of error, on the Vulgate needing correction, on the
separation of Church and state, on science over Faith, on papal infallibility,
on Mary as the redeemer of mankind, on financial support of heretical
societies, and on promotion of the non-Catholic League of Nations. Presented in
detail below, each of these heresies and schisms of antipope Benedict XV is
exposed and shown to be deceptions of satan, whose primary purpose is to
undermine Catholic dogma and thereby get men to fall outside the Church.
Pope Eugene IV, Council
of Florence, Sess. 6, July 6, 1439, ex cathedra: "We
also define that the holy apostolic see and the Roman pontiff holds
the primacy over the whole world and the Roman pontiff is the successor of
blessed Peter prince of the apostles, and that he is the true vicar of
Christ, the head of the whole church and the father
and teacher of all Christians, and to him was committed in blessed Peter
the full power of tending, ruling and governing the whole church, as is
contained also in the acts of ecumenical councils and in the sacred canons."
Benedict XIV, Peregrinantes,
#10, May 5, 1749: "May your obvious agreement in the worship
of God, in the discipline of Christian life, and in reverence toward the Pope,
spiritual Father of every Catholic, all serve as an incentive for emulation and
an occasion for shame among those who have left the Church."
Pope Pius IX, Nostis Et Nobiscum,
#16, Dec. 8, 1849: "Consequently the successor of Peter, the
Roman Pontiff, holds a primacy over the whole world and is the true Vicar of
Christ, head of the whole Church and father and teacher of all Christians."
Pope Julius III, Council
of Trent, Sess. 14, Ch. 2, On the Difference Between the Sacrament of
Penance and That of Baptism, Nov. 25, 1451, ex cathedra: "the
Church exercises judgment on no one who has not entered therein through the
gate of baptism. For, what have I, saith the apostle, to do to
judge them that are without?"
On The Redemption of All
Men
Benedict XV, Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum (#1),
Nov. 1, 1914: "For the whole of mankind was freed
from the slavery of sin by the shedding of the blood of Jesus Christ
as their ransom, and there is no one who is excluded from the benefit
of this Redemption ..."
It is clear from the
very first paragraph of his very first "encyclical", Benedict XV
manifests himself as an antipope and reformer of Catholic dogma. In no
uncertain terms, he teaches a word for word contradiction to theCouncil of
Trent when he says that "there is no one who is excluded from the
benefit of this Redemption."
Pope Paul III, Council
of Trent, Sess. 6, Ch. 3, Who Are Justified Through Christ, Jan. 13,
1547, ex cathedra: "But though He died for all,
yet not all receive the benefit of His death, but only those whom
the merit of His passion is imparted."
Yes, read it again and
again. It is a word for word contradiction. The Catechism of the
Council of Trent also affirms this Truth.
Catechism of the Council
of Trent, Explanation Of
The Form Used In The Consecration Of The Wine, p. 147: "...
we must confess that the Redeemer shed His blood for the salvation of all; but
if we look to the fruit which mankind has received from it, we shall
easily find that it pertains not unto all, but to many of the human
race."
So, you may ask, who
receives the benefit of His death? Why baptized Catholics, of course, and only
baptized Catholics.
Pope Paul III, Council
of Trent, Sess. 5, Concerning Original Sin, June 17, 1546, ex
cathedra: "... or by any other remedy than the merit of
the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath reconciled us to God in his own
blood, made unto us justice, santification, and redemption; or if
he denies that the said merit of Jesus Christ is applied, both to adults
and to infants, by the sacrament of baptism rightly
administered in the form of the church; let him be anathema ..."
Moreover, antipope
Benedict XV taught that "the whole of mankind was freed from the slavery
of sin". This is bold heresy! As shown above, it is a dogma that until one
receives the sacrament of baptism, the merits of Christ's Redemption are not imparted
to such a person. Thus, if the merits of Redemption are poured out at baptism,
then until baptism it logically follows that the person is still under the
dominion of sin and the devil, a Truth affirmed by Pope Eugene IV at the Council
of Florence.
You tolerated anti
pope benedict xv for the whole term of his papacy. It only means you allowed
corruption to prevail in your church, thus the disorder.
You are powerless to
do this:
1C 14:40 “Let all things be done decently and in order.”
Did you do all things
in order? You didn’t thus a transgression of god’s commandment. Are you not
gross transgressors, catholics?
GINO: History—and its lessons—should never be
ignored. There can be no denying that the inquisition courts existed. As
described in the papal apology of Pope John Paul II at the beginning of
the New Millennium, "Men of the church, in the name of faith
and morals, have sometimes used methods not in keeping with the Gospels in the
solemn duty of defending truth."
The Inquisition is
classic proof that the Church includes sinners who do sinful things,
and that good people can make wrong decisions. It is also a classic
example of what happens when those who represent the Church are caught up in
the norms and ethics of the society in which they live. They can far too easily
judge the Gospel with the eyes of culture, rather than the culture by the
Gospel.
That said, it also has
to be remembered that the Inquisition as presented in the Catholic urban legend
is far from the reality of history. It is unfair to use it as a cudgel against
contemporary Catholic positions, and it is pure bigotry to present it as a
defining element of Catholic faith, yesterday or today.
I do not even deny
this stain in history. And I am glad you brought it up.
SIN: Judge for your selves, if forcing a man to recant his belief is
meekness, much more burning to death heretics.
I don’t know john hus’
doctrinal beliefs but I think he have shown true faith irrevocable, more
Christian-like and not a heretic. Murderers as the council of constance were
the true heretics.
1Jn 3:15 “Whosoever hateth
his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life
abiding in him.”
GINO: Such is the stain. And as I said, I do not deny that.
Again, Mr. Sin. Would such an argument make you holier than
us?
“for all have
sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” – Romans 3:33
"... No
one is good--except God alone.” – Mark 10:18
Know that so, Mr. Sin that whatever faults
some people did in the past are what we repent for.
And that is why we come to God with full
repentance:
“Repent, then, and
turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may
come from the Lord,ll sorrow.” – Acts 3:19
Here is a trustworthy
saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save
sinners—of whom
am the worst. But for
that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners,
Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who
would believe on him and receive eternal life. - 1 Timothy 1:15-16
It was also said that the Church will be
composed of sinners as well – Matthew 13.
It does not make you holier than us, Mr. Sin.
Protestantism has this stain as well – In Geneva, England, Germany.
SIN: TRYING TO JUSTIFY RELIGIOUS CRIMES NOW, EH?
Ro 1:28 “And even as they did not like to retain God in [their]
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are
not convenient;
Ro 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,
wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
malignity; whisperers,
Ro 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters,
inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Ro 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural
affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Ro 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit
such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in
them that do them.”
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such
things are worthy of death
You mean to say paul
and peter can kill and do inquisition and still they are Christians? If you
repent for them, will that sin be forgiven when the doer is worthy of death,
and now you say you repent for them? It’s a futile repentance.
GINO: Know that so, Mr. Sin that whatever faults
some people did in the past are what we repent for.
And that is why we
come to God with full repentance:
SIN: what? You repent for them, but were they repentant? Can you save
them by your proxy repentance?
Ezk 14:20 “Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, [were] in it, [as] I
live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they
shall [but] deliver their own souls by their righteousness.”
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such
things are worthy of death
GINO: “Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your
sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,ll
sorrow.” – Acts 3:19
SIN: God
doesn’t allows 2nd repentance for Christians.
2C 7:10 “For godly sorrow
worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of:”
It is impossible for
2nd repentance.
Hb 6:4 “For [it is] impossible for those who were once
enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of
the Holy Ghost,
Hb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the
world to come,
Hb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put
[him] to an open shame.”
CHRIST WONT BE
SACRIFICED AGAIN THE 2ND TIME FOR YOUR SINS after you have knowledge
of the truth.
Hb 10:26 “For if we sin wilfully after
that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more
sacrifice for sins,
Hb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery
indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.”
Hb 10:17 “And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Hb 10:18 Now where remission of these [is, there is] no more
offering for sin.”
It is better to have
not known righteousness than after you become Christian you return to evil,
meaning, if indeed you are Christians even if Pope john paul II, asked for forgiveness
OF THE CHURCH SINS and even if you repent for it, there is no forgiveness anymore.
2Pt 2:20 “For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the
world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are
again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than
the beginning.
2Pt 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way
of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy
commandment delivered unto them.
2Pt 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true
proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was
washed to her wallowing in the mire.”
Ro 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit
such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in
them that do them.”
Repent for your popes’
sins? Is that not repentance by proxy? Keep inventing!
GINO: It was also said that the Church will be
composed of sinners as well – Matthew 13.
SIN: mortal sinners in the
church? But they are not exposed as your murderer-popes were bec if they are
known they will inevitably be cut off the church.
1C 5:13 “But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away
from among yourselves that wicked
person.”
GINO: It does not make you holier than us, Mr. Sin.
Protestantism has this stain as well – In Geneva, England, Germany.
SIN: Ro 12:2 “And be not conformed to this world:
but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is]
that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”
GINO: “Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your
sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,ll
sorrow.” – Acts 3:19
SIN: insinuating that
after becoming a christian, you can still do mortal sins and still can be
forgiven. You’re wrong, no more forgiveness reserved after baptism for willful
mortal sinners. Moreover, you try to justify sins committed after becoming a
Christian, you quoted paul as your basis for such twisted belief as though
accusing him as the worst of sinners after conversion.
GINO: Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves
full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom
I am the worst. But for that very reason
I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus
might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe
on him and receive eternal life. - 1 Timothy 1:15-16
SIN: Repentance
(from mortal sins) is a teaching for non-christians alone and not to Christians.
Paul before becoming a christian was in that situation-he
was the chief of sinners but after becoming a christian , he is not a servant
of sin anymore.
1Ti 1:15 “This [is] a faithful saying, and worthy of all
acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I
am chief.
1Ti 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first
Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which
should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.”
I obtained mercy. Now that he being a sinner obtained mercy, what
happened, did he remained a sinner after baptism?
Ro 6:4 “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father,
even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Ro 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him],
that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve
sin.”
that henceforth we should
not serve sin
this is not in accordance to inquisitors and pope crusaders.
Jn 8:34 “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant
of sin.
Jn 8:35 And the servant (of sin) abideth not in the house for ever: [but] the Son abideth ever.”
Ro 6:20 “For when ye were the servants of sin, ye
were free from righteousness.
Ro 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to
God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.”
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye
have your fruit unto holiness
Repentance is for
non-christians.
Ac 3:12 “And when Peter saw [it], he answered unto the people, Ye
men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as
though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
Ac 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of
our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him
in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let [him] go.
Ac 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of
our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him
in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let [him] go.
Ac 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a
murderer to be granted unto you;”
What did peter
admonished these non-christians?
Ac 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may
be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of
the Lord;”
Pope murders and
still a Christian? Pope murders and
still the succession from peter is unbroken?
The fact that evil
popes reigned in your church, it means EVIL PROSPERS IN YOUR CHURCH whereas the
true church is incorruptible BY EVIL.
Evil prospered in the
catholic church by way of their sins, murders and wars.
1Jn 3:8 “He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil
sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,
that he might destroy the works of the devil.”
Evil don’t prevail in
the true church.
Mt 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon
this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall
not prevail against it.”
1Jn 5:18 “We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but
he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
1Jn 5:19 [And] we know that we (the church) are of God, and the whole world lieth in
wickedness.”
You’re trying to
justify murder and murderers by this:
GINO: Such is the stain. And as I said, I do not deny that.
Again, Mr. Sin. Would
such an argument make you holier than us?
“for all have
sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” – Romans 3:33
"... No
one is good--except God alone.” – Mark 10:18
SIN: who are the “all” that sinned? All people? No, but all Christians
before they believed. Not all people sinned mortally but only many.
Ro 5:19 “For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners.”
All Christians sinned
before righteousness.
Ro 3:21 “But now the righteousness of God without the law is
manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus
Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Now that
righteousness have manifested in them, are they still sinners, fallen short of
the glory of god?
Ro 5:2 “By whom also we have access by faith into this grace
wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.”
2C 4:15 “For all things [are] for your sakes, that the abundant
grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God.
2C 4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man
perish, yet the inward [man] is renewed day by day.”
Your sole argument: POPE ARE NOT INFALLIBLE.
Yes likewise these
Christians, they are not infallible but they are not servants of sin.
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Q. 530. When does the
Church teach infallibly?
A. The Church teaches
infallibly when it speaks through the Pope and Bishops united in general
council, or through the Pope alone when he proclaims to all the faithful a
doctrine of faith or morals.
Q. 531. What is necessary
that the Pope may speak infallibly or ex-cathedra?
A. That the Pope may speak
infallibly, or ex-cathedra:
1. He must speak on a subject of faith or morals;
2. He must speak as the Vicar of Christ and to the whole Church;
3. He must indicate by certain words, such as, we define, we proclaim, etc., that he intends to speak infallibly.
1. He must speak on a subject of faith or morals;
2. He must speak as the Vicar of Christ and to the whole Church;
3. He must indicate by certain words, such as, we define, we proclaim, etc., that he intends to speak infallibly.
Q. 532. Is the Pope
infallible in everything he says and does?
A. The Pope is not infallible in everything he says and does, because the
Holy Ghost was not promised to make him infallible in everything, but only in
matters of faith and morals for the whole Church. Nevertheless, the Pope's
opinion on any subject deserves our greatest respect on account of his
learning, experience and dignity.
--baltimore cathecism
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This is a strange
doctrine! They mean to say that there
are things Christians do that is outside matters of faith? fools!
Ro 14:23 “And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because it is not
of faith: FOR WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN.”
FOR WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN
Now compare with them: The Pope is not infallible in everything he
says and does, because the Holy Ghost was not promised to make him infallible
in everything, but only in matters of faith and morals for the whole Church.
Everything we does are
matters of faith.
Moreover,
“Nevertheless,
the Pope's opinion on any subject deserves our greatest respect on account of
his learning, experience and dignity.”
Does god allows opinion in
execution of faith or in anything?
Ro 14:23 “And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because it is not
of faith: FOR WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN.”
Opinions are not allowed
in faith bec if it is not of faith but full of doubt and not certain.
And HE THAT DOUBTS IS DAMNED if he eat, BECAUSE IT IS NOT OF FAITH
Doubts as opinion is not
of faith as the verse says and bec opinion is not of faith it is sin.
FOR WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN
ONE WICKED POPE, ONE CHAIN OF PAPAL SUCCESSION BROKEN.
Again!
When you become a
Christian, you leave behind all evil. You are now a new creature.
2C 5:17 “Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new
creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
Col 3:9 “Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the
old man with his deeds;
Col 3:10 And have put on the new [man], which is renewed in
knowledge after the image of him that created him:
New creatures are not
servants of sin like popes who murders?
Ro 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him],
that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve
sin.”
Bec if you become
evil again, there is no more 2nd chances, you’re sure a damned soul.
Did you get the
point?
He still tried to
save face.
SIN: he implied a justification of doing evil.
But god said true Christians
don’t commit mortal sins anymore as murderer popes and catholic crusaders.
1Jn 5:18 “We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but
he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him
not.”
He implied popes can
kill (in inquisition and crusades) bec nobody is good. Does christ’s words no
one is good, implied we can’t do good perpetually?
3Jn 1:11 “Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which
is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen
God.”
1Pt 3:16 “Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil
of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good
conversation in Christ.”
1Pt 2:12 “they may by [your] good works, which they shall behold,
glorify God in the day of visitation.”
Of course this is
perpetual goodness all Christians must do.
He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen
God…
And as true Christians,
we must continue on these words of Christ.
Jn 8:31 “Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If
ye continue in my word, [then] are ye my disciples indeed;”
What is god’s
judgment for the evil ones then?
Ro 11:22 “Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on
them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his]
goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.”
Did you cut off evil
popes? You did! Like letting them reign as antipopes too long and also, by
letting popes reigned as inquisitors and crusaders. Where is now the supremacy
of the councils then? They condone it?
Ro 1:29 “Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,
wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
malignity; whisperers,
Ro 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters,
inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Ro 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural
affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Ro 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit
such things are worthy of
death, not only do the same,
but AGREE in them that do them.”
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such
things are worthy of
death, not only do the same,
but AGREE in them that do them
You condone them therefore
you too are worthy of death.
Ro 16:3 “Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
Ro 16:4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom
not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.
Ro 16:5 Likewise [greet] the church that is in their house. Salute
my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
Ro 16:6 Greet Mary, who bestowed much labour on us.
Ro 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my
fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ
before me.
Ro 16:8 Greet Amplias my beloved in the Lord.
Ro 16:9 Salute Urbane, our helper in Christ, and Stachys my
beloved.
Ro 16:10 Salute Apelles approved in Christ. Salute them which are
of Aristobulus'[household].
Ro 16:11 Salute Herodion my kinsman. Greet them that be of the
[household] of Narcissus, which are in the Lord.
Ro 16:12 Salute Tryphena and Tryphosa, who labour in the Lord.
Salute the beloved Persis, which laboured much in the Lord.
Ro 16:13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
Ro 16:14 Salute Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and
the brethren which are with them.
Ro 16:15 Salute Philologus, and Julia, Nereus, and his sister, and
Olympas, and all the saints which are with them.
Ro 16:16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of
Christ salute you.”
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The church to whom paul addressed
his epistle was to the church in rome. Peter was the first bishop of rome, so
as catholics claimed.
Saint Peter (?-ad 64?), the most prominent of the 12
disciples of Jesus Christ, a leader and missionary in the early church, and traditionally the first bishop of Rome.
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PETER WAS THE FIRST BISHOP
OF ROME but why didn’t Paul included him in the greetings when he sent his
letter to the church in Rome? What does that imply?
PETER WAS NO WHERE IN
ROME. HE WAS IN THE JEWS CIVILIZATION PROSELYTIZING UNBELIEVERS.
Ga 2:7 “But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
uncircumcision (gentiles) was committed
unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision
(jews) [was] unto Peter;
Ga 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the
apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the
Gentiles:)”
Paul heads over all
the church.
Ac 9:15 “But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a
chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the
children of Israel:”
He was made the
administrator of the church, meaning the physical head or overseer of the
church. When it comes to preaching unbelievers peter was tasked for the jews
while paul was tasked for gentiles but when it comes to the administration of God on the whole church
paul was tasked for it.
Col 1:24 “Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up
that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's
sake, WHICH IS THE CHURCH:
Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation (OIKONOMIAN
in greek: ADMINISTRATION) of
God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;”
according to the ADMINISTRATION OF GOD which
is given to me for you. (dispensation is a wrong translation)
[ Old English biscop, via Germanic < variant of Latin episcopus
"bishop, overseer" < Greek episkopos "overseer"
< skopos "watcher"]
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An administrator is an overseer, a bishop therefore
Paul was the first bishop of the integral jew-gentile church. Peter never ruled
over the whole church HE ONLY FEEDS THE SHEEPS THEN- jews only bec no gentile was
a member yet but when Paul came, god gave him the administration over the whole
jew-gentile church. Never can you read that peter was Episcopal leader over the
jew and gentile Christians but we can read paul as the leader over it. HE HAD
THE ADMINISTRATION OF GOD OVER THE CHURCH GIVEN HIM.
All
your sources as Tertullius etc claiming peter was the church’s president are
all liars! Challenge: prove that they are not.
Check on our faith
folks, bec it is unblemished and without stain, our doctrines are pure, correct
and apostolic-the only sign of true Christianity.
Lastly, I want to
quote bro marcus cavalcanti, an assembly of god preacher who once debated bro
eli and have now been a convert.
Ti 1:9 “Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught,
that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the
gainsayers.
Ti 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers,
specially they of the circumcision:
Ti 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses,
teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.”
“Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching
things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake”
That’s it catholic folks!
Be more discerning!
Truly yours,
DENNIS Y BUTIC https://www.facebook.com/sin.yogi
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